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Ask a "Silly" Question / Re: Any ideas on what this formation might be
« on: January 27, 2017, 10:27:24 PM »
Most of the spectacular minerals we see from ore deposits are those formed in the oxidised zone. When the oxidised zone is well developed and the secondary minerals sufficiently concentrated, it is a highly profitable zone to mine as the processing is much cheaper and easier and the metals more concentrated. However, most oxidised zones have been mined in the past because they formed outcrops of easily identifiable stained gossans. The most common minerals found in oxidised zones are:
Copper: malachite, azurite, chrysocolla
Gangue minerals: quartz (usually cryptocrystalline), baryte, calcite, aragonite
Iron: goethite, hematite
Lead: anglesite, cerussite
Manganese: pyrolusite, romanechite, rhodochrosite
Nickel: gaspeite, garnierite
Silver: native silver, chlorargyrite
Zinc: smithsonite

Ask a "Silly" Question / Re: Any ideas on what this formation might be
« on: January 27, 2017, 04:12:10 PM »
 Looks like a gossan type deposit.

Ask a "Silly" Question / Re: Any ideas on what this formation might be
« on: January 24, 2017, 04:19:14 PM »
Looks like manganese from the pics, or iron.

General Discussion / Re: Dangerous Mining
« on: December 15, 2016, 08:09:59 AM »
Back to the topic. Some other examples of dangerous mining.
In the Phillipines, the miners, usually children, dive down into narrow muddy mines full of water with nothing more than a piece of garden hose clenched between their teeth to breathe. Many die.
In China the artisanal miners dig their own coal from abandoned underground coal mines and sell it on the side of the road. No ventilation or safety gear. Dozens die every year.
In PNG, the miners work in rivers which are subject to flash flooding from tropical storms. They often have the whole family with them. In 2013, an entire village was buried under millions of tonnes of rock when a storm a long way from them caused a flash flood, and huge landslide. The entire village of about 300 people, most of whom were artisanal miners was buried during the night, and the bodies were never recovered.
My point. When you see first hand how some of the other people in the world mine for gold and gemstones you soon realise that we have little to complain about. No government hand outs, no proper home, no workcover when they get hurt,  just a primitive grass hut, and little or no knowledge of the most basic safety measures.

General Discussion / Re: Gemstone Caravan Park Eldorado closing
« on: December 14, 2016, 10:06:25 PM »
I do know that Doug was unwell some time back. It gets to a point where if you can't sell it you just close it down and sell off what you can.

General Discussion / Re: Gemstone Caravan Park Eldorado closing
« on: December 14, 2016, 03:16:29 PM »
I believe the site is owned by the Wangaratta Shire. It will most likely be carved up and sold off.

General Discussion / Re: Dangerous Mining
« on: December 13, 2016, 06:52:14 AM »
I agree with Admin here. There is a huge difference between artisanal miners and what we do. I work with artisanal miners in PNG and they work often in treacherous conditions in the rivers and streams. I know of many instances where their babies and children are swept away and drown. They also dig into banks until they collapse, and many are injured or killed. I work full time as a small scale miner here in Oz for most of the year and travel to PNG to assist in the education of artisanal miners. We teach them safety and other mining stuff. The reality though is if they don't get gold, they starve. That is repeated for artisanal miners world wide. We get it easy compared to them.

General Discussion / Re: A bloody discrace!
« on: November 22, 2016, 04:38:14 PM »
It has got far worse over the last 12 months. Last march we found a bloke in a well known North East Creek with a mini excavator. We know where he had been in other places too because he throws his empty Carlton Cold stubbies up on the bank at each place. Also have had dozens of people dredging. Parks Victoria simply do not have the resources to get these blokes. They work at night after the rangers have gone to bed and even if caught by a ranger they are rarely prosecuted as rangers have little power to prosecute under the Mineral Resources Act. I sent a well worded letter to the Resources Minister re this and after three follow up letters have still not had a response. That's why they do it, No One Cares!!!
So we now deal with these clowns our way......!!!

Gemstone Discussions / Re: Secondary market research
« on: October 11, 2016, 02:20:12 PM »
Just my thoughts based on experience here. I did the NEIS scheme some years ago and developed a small gold mining company, and now also dabbling in gemstone mining, cutting and more. I am also a qualified gold and silversmith. The NEIS scheme is all about writing your business plan and doing financial modelling for your new business. It's pretty easy to get through it but I can tell you that whatever you estimate you will make in the first year, you can cut by 50% at least. Small mining and gem enterprises are extremely difficult to make work profitably. And you will work harder than you ever have before. I worked 60 hours plus per week in the first year, and made little money. Now, years later, and after a number of part time jobs to supplement income to feed the family, I can say I have a successful and viable business. Neis is good as it gives you start up funding, but the real crunch will come when that funding ends. You then need to be able to generate a profit on a regular basis, to pay the usual bills, and put some money in your pocket. I would suggest you need to do a little more than just cutting stones and selling them. maybe study jewellery making or silversmithing to add to what you do. Online store is a good idea, but you need to do a lot of markets on a regular basis to build a client base. For industry stats go to the  Australian Bureau of Statistics website and see what is in there.Gee here I am giving away secrets. Good Luck.

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Tell Us About Yourself / Re: Hi from Beechworth
« on: September 19, 2016, 10:58:55 AM »
Might pop over for a look this Saturday. The missus is away, so I am off the I am happy to learn the basics like cabbing etc. Thanks a lot for the info.

Tell Us About Yourself / Re: Hi from Beechworth
« on: September 19, 2016, 09:09:41 AM »
Thanks for the info. I am aware of the Albury club, but sadly there is no club in Beechworth. I will come along to the clubrooms in Albury on a Saturday , and join up. Look forward to a catch up.

Tell Us About Yourself / Re: Hi from Beechworth
« on: September 18, 2016, 03:52:44 PM »
I was talking to John just 2 days ago as we were both involved in the search for a missing    6 y.o boy. I have known John for many years. I have a nice collection of local rocks and gems which has been growing for many years. Now time to do something with them.

Tell Us About Yourself / Re: Hi from Beechworth
« on: September 18, 2016, 09:45:07 AM »
Thanks Jamo. Yes there is some good fossicking here. We have also had a succession of flood over the last few months so it is even better at the moment. Look forward to talking with other members too.

Tell Us About Yourself / Hi from Beechworth
« on: September 17, 2016, 06:39:41 PM »
Hi, I am new to lapidary but know a bit about jewellery, and silversmithing. I have lived permanently in Beechworth for over 20 years and have accumulated some nice stones etc. About to take the plunge and start cutting and polishing stones to put into my own design jewellery, and do some carving. I am a full time gold miner, running my own small mining business in the Beechworth area.
I also do a bit of work in Papua New Guinea training artisanal gold miners over there, and hope to do some gemstone prospecting in the near future too.
Anyway hope to meet some of you on the gemfields one day.

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