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Looking to buy a Patriot machine. Any comments?
« on: August 26, 2019, 01:18:52 PM »
Hi All
I'm looking at buying a new machine and found a Patriot available. Can't seem to find any others where I don't have to wait many months for delivery.
Anyway, I'm interested in any comments regards the Patriot machine.

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Re: Looking to buy a Patriot machine. Any comments?
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2019, 02:21:42 PM »
Sorry - have not seen a Patriot so cannot give any advice.  Hopefully others can assist.

From memory, they may have used an odd size dop and spare dops were difficult to source.   Most will will use quarter inch brass (or occasionally aluminium) to make dops with a variety of keying methods but I just have a feeling that Patriot/Omni used a weird size for some reason.  If you have a more standard size, then often dops from another machine may fit - they can often can be used no problem or can easily be manufactured if you have or know someone with a lathe.
 Probably not a deal breaker but maybe check on that before making the final decision.

Slow supply is definitely a big problem for just about all the manufacturers - seems impossible to get machines in a timely fashion.  Probably the main reason why we gave up on stocking them - was just too frustrating for both us and customers.
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Re: Looking to buy a Patriot machine. Any comments?
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2019, 05:41:36 AM »
About 2 years ago I got talked into making dops for someone with one of these. I don't even enjoy making them for MYSELF any more. But anyway, I did it to help the guy out.  The dops were 7.6mm (.300 Inches.).  I don't know whay tyey chose this size,,Maybe they got a deal on that rod size? You can't buy it at stockists. 7.62 X 39 is what an AK47 takes.


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Re: Looking to buy a Patriot machine. Any comments?
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2019, 07:30:13 AM »
Hi Gearloose,
Great to hear from you again.
7.62mm is the size that the Australian made Hall X-tra uses.
The Patriot, Tom-Thumb, and Hall X-tra were all designed by Laurie Hall when he retired from manufacturing machines himself.
Extra dops may be available from the manufacturer of the X-tra, however, whilst these machines use the same calibre dops, they may have different keys for rotational orientation.
A Tom-Thumb owned by a member of our club has been sleeved down to 1/4 Inch so that it can use common Gemmasta dops.
Again, however, Gemmasta in South Australia has recently gone out of business and whilst Gemcuts in Qld has not yet recommenced production, they may be able to supple 1/4 inch dops.
Hope these ramblings help.
Regards,  Ghost.

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