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Re: NEVER PEG A SMALL MINERS CLAIM IN QUEENSLAND
« Reply #90 on: April 15, 2016, 05:44:35 PM »
Read the declaration the ESA file (first one). The Qld Government is covering themselves by stating that nothing on the map maybe accurate or correct and that an individual assessment need to be done to check if any item is correct.  :o ::)

Explains why the map is as clear as mud. Starting to think that they have declared cane toads endangered.  :D

Cannot see any difference in the colour blue with the ERE areas and the Repealed Wild River Nominated Waterways.  If they are cancelled then why show them.

Now to look at the other 2 maps.
I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several days attack me at once.

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Re: NEVER PEG A SMALL MINERS CLAIM IN QUEENSLAND
« Reply #91 on: April 15, 2016, 05:50:47 PM »
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The Qld Government is covering themselves by stating that nothing on the map maybe accurate or correct and that an individual assessment need to be done to check if any item is correct.  :o ::)

Maybe that's why they haven't responded to me ;) I questioned the boundaries from a botanical point of view. Unfortunately, I am not a recognised professional so it means nothing to them I imagine.

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Re: NEVER PEG A SMALL MINERS CLAIM IN QUEENSLAND
« Reply #92 on: April 15, 2016, 06:07:30 PM »
If this is a ESA catogory B ERE (j).
How many mining leases are within 1 KLM of it.

 
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Re: NEVER PEG A SMALL MINERS CLAIM IN QUEENSLAND
« Reply #93 on: April 15, 2016, 06:12:08 PM »
If this is a ESA catogory B ESE (j).
How many mining leases are within 1 KLM of it.

 

Jason Woels aka Mini-Max has his lease just over the fence from me and is definitely closer than that - his entire lease almost I would say.

He is on Keilambete station so just outside the boundary of the DFL but I don't suppose that would make a difference.

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Re: NEVER PEG A SMALL MINERS CLAIM IN QUEENSLAND
« Reply #94 on: April 15, 2016, 08:42:45 PM »
Lefty
Queensland.Herbarium@qld.gov.au.
Brigalow Belt (North) Sandy Pollock
Brigalow Belt (South) Hans Dillewaard
These are the bioregional coordinators you need to contact.
I'd do it, but leaf lickin is not in my skill set.
See if you can get confirmation on status of this ERE.







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Re: NEVER PEG A SMALL MINERS CLAIM IN QUEENSLAND
« Reply #95 on: April 16, 2016, 06:16:48 AM »
Lefty
Queensland.Herbarium@qld.gov.au.
Brigalow Belt (North) Sandy Pollock
Brigalow Belt (South) Hans Dillewaard
These are the bioregional coordinators you need to contact.
I'd do it, but leaf lickin is not in my skill set.
See if you can get confirmation on status of this ERE.








Thanks mate. I have emailed them with some concerns and questions.

Cheers

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Re: NEVER PEG A SMALL MINERS CLAIM IN QUEENSLAND
« Reply #96 on: April 16, 2016, 06:55:00 PM »
If this is a ESA catogory B ERE (j).
How many mining claims are within 500m of it.

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Re: NEVER PEG A SMALL MINERS CLAIM IN QUEENSLAND
« Reply #97 on: April 17, 2016, 03:58:17 PM »
They've instructed Lefty that he is in conflict with a ESA (ERE) which has a 500m and a 1000m buffer zone around it.(Deep and meaningful repercussions for all).

My bet is all departments involved have totally confused each other.

And they meant to tell Lefty that he is in conflict with a SEA (strategic environmental area).
No buffer zones only applies to those in the zone.

If so they owe us all beer.

Nigel

PS Has anyone else noticed the tweaking.

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Re: NEVER PEG A SMALL MINERS CLAIM IN QUEENSLAND
« Reply #98 on: April 19, 2016, 05:19:43 AM »
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My bet is all departments involved have totally confused each other.

Wouldn't be surprised at all. They refer to these things in different acronyms which they appear to use interchangeably.

Still no response from either the Department of Environment and Heritage Protection or the Queensland Herbarium. I know people can be busy but by now I'd be starting to think that they have no intention of responding and would prefer I just go away. They are only open between certain hours to talk to and I can't spend hours on the phone any time I like.

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Re: NEVER PEG A SMALL MINERS CLAIM IN QUEENSLAND
« Reply #99 on: April 19, 2016, 07:50:32 PM »
 Keep Trying. Email daily if you have To. Pester Hell out of them till you get a response >:(


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Re: NEVER PEG A SMALL MINERS CLAIM IN QUEENSLAND
« Reply #100 on: April 19, 2016, 10:24:09 PM »
I agree with Gemster  beers

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Re: NEVER PEG A SMALL MINERS CLAIM IN QUEENSLAND
« Reply #101 on: April 20, 2016, 05:36:05 PM »

QSMA president has just told me that about a dozen tenures have been affected on the gemfields, plus a few applications.

I am still pretty cranky about what has happened to me but I'm glad the gemfields overall has not been greatly affected. However - this has reduced the amount of sapphire-bearing ground that can now be pegged in the future. The mineralized ground definitely extends far beyond the boundaries of the designated mining areas - for every piece of existing designated mining area area they lock up, I think they should bloodywell add a new piece of peggable ground at least as big. Otherwise, there will eventually be nothing.

The changes that have occurred over the years since my father pegged our first claims on the CQ gemfields in 1979 have been far-reaching - there was a much smaller amount of paperwork, no native title stuff, no rates payable to Emerald shire council for services they still don't deliver, no greenies marching in and forcing already-designated sapphire mining ground to be locked away...

I agree that we shouldn't be too quick to jump on the doom and gloom bandwagon - but we should definitely look back and see what has happened steadily over the past few decades. Sapphire mining will eventually be at risk of going down to "death by a thousand small cuts" >:( >:( :'(

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Re: NEVER PEG A SMALL MINERS CLAIM IN QUEENSLAND
« Reply #102 on: April 20, 2016, 07:04:30 PM »
Where did mining go wrong.
An interesting question perhaps requiring it's own thread, so the debate doesn't detract from the importance of this one.

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Re: NEVER PEG A SMALL MINERS CLAIM IN QUEENSLAND
« Reply #103 on: April 21, 2016, 05:56:22 AM »
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Where did mining go wrong.
An interesting question perhaps requiring it's own thread, so the debate doesn't detract from the importance of this one.

It looks to me as though small-scale miners - most precious stone mining - prospectors and serious recreational fossickers have enemies in the halls of power....but no friends there.

Farmers and graziers generally would prefer we aren't around (not every last one of them of course but generally speaking) and these people have a voice in policy-making circles through the Nats. Environmentalists in general would prefer that we did not exist at all an these people have a voice in policy-making circles through the Greens. We have enemies on both sides of state politics but no friends - as the QSMA president has told me, changes that have made things more and more difficult for small miners have been implemented by both sides of politics in Queensland.

Without a voice, we can only expect to be forever trampled over.

Yes, good idea - we should have a discussion thread stickied about this.

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Re: NEVER PEG A SMALL MINERS CLAIM IN QUEENSLAND
« Reply #104 on: April 26, 2016, 03:41:55 PM »
Can't say I know of any time in Queensland's Political History where the Greens have ever been in a position to dictate Government Policy or Legislation. in Queensland.  I'm afraid you can only blame the environmentalists in the LNP or Labor. Good luck finding any one giving a damn about the environment in the LNP though.
As taken from Wiki...........The Queensland  Green's party has not won any seats in the Queensland Parliament The party did achieve its first state parliamentary representative on 5 October 2008 when Ronan Lee defected to the Greens from the Australian Labor Party, due to his belief that the Bligh government was not paying enough attention to environmental issues. He lost his seat at the 2009 state election to the Liberal Nationals.

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