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Shifter55

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Looking for synthetic rutile rough
« on: June 06, 2017, 06:06:13 PM »
Does anyone know a supplier that stocks synthetic rutile rough? I've got an experiment in faceting design that requires a very high refractive index but may not be suited to moissanite on account of the material's strong birefrigence.

I'm looking for a piece around 15-20mm in diameter and 5-8mm thick, if you want a rough idea of what I want to use it for.

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Re: Looking for synthetic rutile rough
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2018, 02:31:05 PM »
Hi Shifter55,
Please let me know if you manage to find a supplier?   I wouldn't mind trying a piece of this stuff myself if any is available.
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Re: Looking for synthetic rutile rough
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2018, 03:21:14 PM »
Glenn Huntly at Quality Gem Rough Supplies is the only one I can think would have it, I haven't asked him but I have looked when I have been to shows.

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Re: Looking for synthetic rutile rough
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2018, 03:37:23 PM »
Thanks Rusted.
I shall ask him if he turns up here at Easter for the Gemboree.
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Re: Looking for synthetic rutile rough
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2018, 05:35:33 PM »
I just had a look with Mr Google.
There's not a lot of it around at all, (nearly none)
I did find this in China that might be OK
http://www.weiku.com/products/10688765/Rutile_Rough.html

Minimum order 100 Grams, no idea of the price. It could be worth a query, I'm sure that it would be reasonably easy to divvy up 100G between a few facetors.

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Re: Looking for synthetic rutile rough
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2018, 05:52:17 PM »
I sent them a query.


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Re: Looking for synthetic rutile rough
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2018, 08:18:22 PM »
Hi Rusted,
I like the way that that site talks about strontium titan ate.
I wonder what strontium titan ate.   I just had lamb chops for tea.

Please let me know how your query goes.

STO RoughSTO rough is short name of strontium titan ate rough.   
1. At very low temperatures, strontium titan ate exhibits piezoelectric and superconducting characteristics.2.Strontium titan ate also exhibits a very large dielectric constant.3. Strontium titan ate finds applications in varistors, while thin strontium titan ate films are used in tunable HTS (high temperature superconducting) microwave filters.
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Re: Looking for synthetic rutile rough
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2018, 06:18:35 PM »
No reply from China yet, maybe they aren't keen on doing business with a non business, though I did call myself Bendigo Gem club, that sometimes works.

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Re: Looking for synthetic rutile rough
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2018, 03:55:45 PM »
Thanks for the replies everyone. Rusted the lack of replies to emails seems to be the case for a lot of online suppliers now, a year ago when I was doing my own searching through Alibaba and even American rough sellers it was very difficult to get replies or have membership to newsletters set up.

Another supplier I have found is RusGems - online they are mostly selling rough hydrothermal synthetics. But on their Etsy they had a cut smokey rutile, and I got a brochure advertising rutile stones from them with some YAG rough.



While it's easy enough to google their contact info, the images are interesting. There's the light yellow tones you often see with rutile, as well as 3 grey tones that start at almost white, to silver, and finally the smokey brown seen online.

There's also two blue tones, which are interesting as those should counteract some of the extreme reflections that can cause paler rutile to appear dull on camera. And a black colour for those who really like their shiny cabochons.

None of the orange or deep red tones I've seen from other faceters, but if their boast about being able to offer multiple colours holds true there will be a nice selection to choose from.

Unfortunately as I am unemployed right now I can't really look into buying any, but this'll be a priority once more than basic needs can be taken care of.

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Re: Looking for synthetic rutile rough
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2018, 07:47:08 PM »
Rutile $4.50 US a ct.


http://www.morioncompany.com/flame_fusion_rutile.htm


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Re: Looking for synthetic rutile rough
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2019, 11:11:14 PM »
I see this thread is  a bit old, but I just stumbled across it.

I don't know if anyone in this thread  is still looking for gem quality (Synthetic) Rutile,  but I will post this here on the offchance it could be helpful.

I purchased a piece of synthetic Rutile a while back(mar 2017) from china.
this link seems to still be active although I have not recently tried it. the contact name listed is the very helpful lady I dealt with  Ms Nancy Zhuang, from Liao Ning Xiang Ou Crystal Materials Co., Ltd.

the link = https://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/lnxojtcl
(link is the company I purchased Rutile from)

and Nancy's email from my contacts with her was Nancy Zhuang <zhuangzhuang1024@163.com>
 
Pricing was very good I thought at US5.50 per gram, not carat. Sold me a very nice (yellowish) 18gram piece. And postage was excellent at about $US5.00 as well. I do not know what current pricing is in $US and also the (US/AU exchange rate was better in 2017)
 
« Last Edit: August 30, 2019, 05:13:49 PM by Tinminer »
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