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swirly

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« on: July 08, 2017, 12:29:23 PM »
what defines a so called master faceter,i  have been faceting for over 40 years and i have won over 50 medals and trophys in open competions all over australia.also there is over 300 hundred of my faceted stones in the melbourne museum,not counting a similer no of cabs.i dont class my elf as a master cutter.just a hobby cutter.what are your thoughts.richard c brew.

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Re: faceting
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2017, 05:09:13 PM »
Swirly,
Could it be the title "Master" is a title some just humbly apply to themselves.  ::) I'm pretty sure it is when it comes to many trades, after an apprenticeship call yourself Master whenever you want.
I think it's pretty safe to call yourself "Master" if you really want to as you more than deserve it after 40 years of faceting. :)

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Andrew



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Re: faceting
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2017, 08:34:21 PM »
The US Facetors Guild has a Master Facetor level.  To qualify you must win in each of the three earlier levels.  To compete at the next level, yiu must first win in the earlier level.  You also have to get more than a set number of points in the comp.  I think it was 95 points.

They don't have many Master Facetors.

In the old Guild system, once an apprentice achieved a set standard they completed a masterpiece to become a master.

Perhaps we should have a master facetors level in Australia that sets a minimum threshold before you can compete and win it.

If you are regularly achieving more than 98 in open competition, I recon you should be able to call yourself a Master.

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Re: faceting
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2017, 09:42:08 PM »
i have won over 50 medals and trophys in open competions all over australia.also there is over 300 hundred of my faceted stones in the melbourne museum,not counting a similer no of cabs. ...
Richard c brew.

Sounds like you would be a contender for Master Facetor if we had a USFG style qualification.

I am interested to know what lead to the exhibits in the Mlb Museum?  Are they part of a display by the mineral society, or because they are remarkable.  Either way it is an impressive number.

I was thinking further on the qualification.  A true master expands and develops the craft.  I would classify Viktor T as one, he has created some stunning and complex cuts.  He has also developed cuts to a theme, like an artist.  I expect Alex W would also be classified as a master for his works on measuring brilliance, etc.
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Re: faceting
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2017, 04:25:35 PM »
I believe many more people like this. And think that it must be very popular in the future.

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Re: faceting
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2017, 09:45:29 AM »
Do you think a Master would have to do any teaching of faceting? I lean that way.
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Re: faceting
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2017, 10:14:36 AM »
i just facet because its what i like to do.not to be a champion or a master facetor ill leave that to others. i facet because i love it,and i like to get out and hunt for stones and cut them myself.i believe this is the best part of the hobby.i must be doing something right because i have been enjoying for over sixty years. on a different note i had a number of faceting articles published in the gold gem and treausure magazine during,the mid 1980;s and early 1990;s,on gem collecting and faceting.richard c brew.

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Re: faceting
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2017, 07:22:15 PM »
Swirly

I quite agree.  But I treat entering comps and the like as a way to make me push the boundaries and improve my skills.  I consider myself an enthusiastic novice.

I recon judges and instructors should enter a couple of comps or publish a couple of articles a year for the same reasons professionals have to do so many points of study each year.

People wanting to be masters should have a higher bar to jump.

By the way, thanks for your imput on the AFG forum.
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Flash
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Re: faceting
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2017, 07:47:18 PM »
i did compete back in the 1980;s'and i won a few medals useing some of my own designs,my highest score was 99.50.also i was a faceting judge for a while.

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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2017, 10:13:43 PM »
Did you have comps in which you could submit your own designs back then, a bit like the silver smithing comp or fancy cabs?

It seems to be a taboo subject now.

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Flash
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Re: faceting
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2017, 11:14:32 PM »
yes you could enter your own designs back then under non standard , or experimental cuts. the rules were similer but not so restictive as to stifle interest different story today.

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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2017, 08:38:58 AM »
I know Ventral Qld run a comp like that.

I think such a comp adds interest as it promotes more design work by competitors.

It may be useful for you to dray the comparison on the AFG website as John was lamenting the low competitor numbers in the last AFG comp.

Ps.  I dream of gettinf to the 99% category.  Currently I average just over 90 and my best was 96.4.

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Gordon
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