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LAPIDARY => Ask a "Silly" Question => Topic started by: sandonkid on November 19, 2010, 04:48:00 PM

Title: Building a Willoughby
Post by: sandonkid on November 19, 2010, 04:48:00 PM
I have only just joined the Forum and I found the Pic of Sandgropers Willoughby.
I am wishing to make one, so am hoping you might send me more details and measurements of the great machine.
Lengths of all the separate pieces would be great.
I trust you are happy with its operation after all this time.
My e-mail is :   PLEASE SEND PM if you can help Dennis
In case I cant get your design details, I would appreciate willoughby design details from anyone else as well.
Thanks in anticipation of a positive response
Dennis  


edited by admin to remove email (using the Private Messaging system will help keep your email away from spam bots which can trawl these publicly available pages - they cant access the PM system).
Title: Re: Building a Willoughby
Post by: Bluey Zarzoff on November 19, 2010, 06:13:39 PM
Hi sandonkid.

Welcome to ALF.

Firstly, I suggest that you remove your email address from your post as people can trawl that and you may end up with plenty of spam. We can send you a private message if we need to contact you.

Now, about a willoughby, I will measure mine up and give the measurements over the weekend if Sandgroper cannot get to the forum.
Title: Re: Building a Willoughby
Post by: sandonkid on November 20, 2010, 06:42:07 PM
Hi Bluey Zarzoff,
Thanks for your response. Would appreciate the measurements of your Willoughby, as I have not heard about the other one yet
Thanks
Dennis
Title: Re: Building a Willoughby
Post by: sandonkid on November 20, 2010, 06:45:48 PM
Hey Bluey,
You are part of a very famous family. I have known several of your brothers
Regards
Dennis
Title: Re: Building a Willoughby
Post by: sandgroper on November 21, 2010, 06:02:05 PM
Hi All,
In response to Sandonkid's request for my Willoughby details, I thought I would post the reply here in case anyone else wants to use my design. It has worked great for me. We gave it a fair hiding at Mud Tank last year and it did everything I expected. It dismantles for easy storage. Once the base and Sieve holder is removed, the rest just folds "flat" and we carry it in a vinyl bag.
Sorry the pics look cluttered but I wanted all the info together where possible.
Hope you find it useful.
Cheers


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Title: Re: Building a Willoughby
Post by: sandgroper on November 21, 2010, 06:04:29 PM
Not sure why only 1 pic but we'll try again

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Title: Re: Building a Willoughby
Post by: sandgroper on November 21, 2010, 06:06:00 PM
.......and again


26/11/2010  Sandgroper corrected a wrong measurement on this drawing.

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Title: Re: Building a Willoughby
Post by: sandgroper on November 21, 2010, 06:07:45 PM
........and yet again !!!!!!

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Title: Re: Building a Willoughby
Post by: sandgroper on November 21, 2010, 06:09:34 PM
....finally...think I'll take a nap now   beers beers

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Title: Re: Building a Willoughby
Post by: Wwoofa on November 21, 2010, 06:30:43 PM
Brilliant Sandgroper ... thanks for the great pics :D

.... I'm off to Bunnings ...
Title: Re: Building a Willoughby
Post by: sandonkid on November 22, 2010, 05:17:46 PM
Hi Sandgroper
I asked a 'silly question' according to the Forum section title.
I got a brilliant answer..... the plans of your willoughby.
I am certain tht many others will also benefit from your generous response.
Thanks a lot
Dennis
ps... dont assume that Bunnings is always better priced on matal items. ( generally speaking however Bunnings are Great for Products & Price)
Many Thanks Again Sandgroper
Title: Re: Building a Willoughby
Post by: Aussie Sapphire on November 22, 2010, 05:41:50 PM
Gday Dennis,

glad you got a good answer - a really great set of diagrams and plans for anyone to use.  Thanks Sandgroper.

Havent had any luck with second hand sieves - we got cleaned out of these a short while ago and havent been able to track any down.  Andrew may know of some hiding in the back shed but he is away for the next week overseas.

Maybe others can help here?

cheers
Leah
Title: Re: Building a Willoughby
Post by: Lefty on August 03, 2012, 06:22:24 AM
I'm thinking of making one of these.

One thing though, I see that they sit on the ground. How does that go with your typical sapphire wash from the gemfields? In my experience, the wash from several different parts of the field is usually clayey and you have to keep grinding the concentrate in the sieve with your hand as you wash it, in order to break up all the lumps. Bit hard to do that if it sits on the ground without constantly bending your back.

Perhaps one on a taller post so the washing drum can sit on a stand at about belly button height might be the go?
Title: Re: Building a Willoughby
Post by: karl on August 03, 2012, 12:59:46 PM
mate you get around the clay part by soaking it first.  you then swirl it, get all the rocks to bottom and tip out the light clay matrix stuff.  usually 1-2 hours and ur good to go.
Title: Re: Building a Willoughby
Post by: soccermum on August 03, 2012, 02:02:09 PM
I love these directions...you are a genius!
Title: Re: Building a Willoughby
Post by: karl on August 03, 2012, 03:25:08 PM
I love these directions...you are a genius!

never been called that before, but ill take it  8)

you'll still need to break up the more 'calyier' bits with your fingers, but if you dont feel and rock inside, you just throw that bit in the bush.  Can take a bit to get used to, but the big ones sit right in the clay at the bottom, and THOSE you do not want to miss.  If it floats though, usually it wont have any signifiant size rock in it, let alone a sapphire.  All my big ones have come right from the bottom.
Title: Re: Building a Willoughby
Post by: Lefty on August 03, 2012, 05:47:51 PM
mate you get around the clay part by soaking it first.  you then swirl it, get all the rocks to bottom and tip out the light clay matrix stuff.  usually 1-2 hours and ur good to go.

Cheers Karl.

Are you talking about soaking a single sieve full? I'm not sure I understand (I'm on my 4th sauvignon blanc right now  beers ;D) - that seems like a long time to wait for a small amount.

When I was a kid, I remember the old Italian bloke from up the ridge telling me to be sure to break up all the clay lumps in the sieve. He started breaking up the lumps I had neglected....and out came a reasonable sized stone. It was a bomb - but I might have been throwing away good ones.

Lesson well learned.
Title: Re: Building a Willoughby
Post by: karl on August 03, 2012, 09:02:16 PM
you soak in 45 litre rubbish buckets, or many many smaller ones.  breaks the diggin up thats for sure
Title: Re: Building a Willoughby
Post by: Lefty on August 03, 2012, 09:10:17 PM
Sounds like a good idea. I remember dad digging out a pile of wash and then letting it air for a day, after which it would become a lot more crumbly. Still had clay lumps though. A good soaking in half 44's might be the go.
Title: Re: Building a Willoughby
Post by: Aussie Sapphire on April 10, 2014, 11:02:55 AM
The original photos on this post had to be deleted due to the attachment folder getting too full (just another reminder to members to add via the Gallery instead of as an attachment PLEASE).

I have added them to a pdf document which can be downloaded here - all credit to Sandgroper who did the photos, information and generously provided them to ALF.

http://www.aussiesapphire.com/ALF_Storage/BuildingWilloughby.pdf (http://www.aussiesapphire.com/ALF_Storage/BuildingWilloughby.pdf)

Made this topic sticky so others can find it quickly in the future

cheers
Leah
Title: Re: Building a Willoughby
Post by: Gerda on April 10, 2014, 01:54:08 PM
Thank you for the instructions sent so promptly. Thank you to Sandgroper for being so generous with the information